By William J. Astore and Danny Sjursen via TomsDispatch

If you have a moment, how about joining two retired officers, Bill Astore and me, Danny Sjursen, as we think about this country’s catastrophic forever wars that, regardless of their deadly costs and lack of progress, never seem quite to end?

Recently, in a podcast chat about our very different but somehow twin journeys through those wars, he and I got to thinking about what might have happened if our paths had crossed so much earlier…. Here’s our retrospective attempt to sort that out in joint correspondence in which we track about 15 years’ worth of this country’s unending wars.

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Bill Astore is a retired Lieutenant Colonel (USAF), professor of history, and a senior fellow at the Eisenhower Media Network.